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¯d¨¥¤é´Á: 8/26/2006 2:22:00 PM

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1. sure, you are entitled to your opioion; rightly or wrong, everyone is entitled to one's opinion.

2. ¥Á¥D¥D¸q is like a «H¥õ; it has ¥Á¥D principles, to me, it is very much like ©v±Ð. It is intended to be mother of all goods yet is has its flaws (like most, if not all ¥D¸q). For practical, political and other reasons, there are always limiting factors that prevent ¥Á¥D (same applies to «H¥õ and ¥D¸q) from being unanimously accepted by everyone in a society.

3. When people try to implement ¥Á¥D, it will bring goods but it will also bring bads. Some people will always fight with the power holders. Some people will do whatever, ethical or not, want to become the power holders. In a ¥Á¥D society, there will be minorities who are 'unhappy' and would prefer living under a different polictical regime.
Is given the freedom or choice a good thing, everytime, all the time. Politic is a very complicated and somegtimes boring subject to me.

Hence, to me, ¥Á¥D remains, nothing more than just a «H¥õ; and a ¥D¸q. In a society, regardless what political ¥D¸q, there are alwasy winners and losers. I don't mind or care what ¥D¸q, ¥Á¥D or otherwise, I probably have litle choice in that anyway. ¯Q¦«¨¹ is just a dream and I enjoy dreaming.

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¯d¨¥¤H: Big Nose 1977
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¯d¨¥¤é´Á: 8/26/2006 2:29:00 AM

°ö¸t¤H,

don't be lazy or ignorant ... you can find lots of references to ¥Á¥D¥D¸q at the following link:

http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=zh-TW&q=%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9&meta=

Whether you agree with ¥Á¥D¥D¸q or not, you simply cannot deny ¥Á¥D¥D¸q DOES exist.

I am no expert in politics; I have little knowledge in general affairs; but I try my best to use common sense. Shouting out loud and Denying the existence without checking is self evidence of lacking common sense ...
forget all the fancy talks and preaching ¥Á¥D in every other breath. I wonder if "common sense ¥D¸q" also exists - may be I should start a movement.

Call me old fashioned if you want but facts and truths speak louder to me.

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¯d¨¥¤é´Á: 8/26/2006 2:20:00 AM

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¯d¨¥¤H: Big Nose 1977
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¯d¨¥¤é´Á: 8/25/2006 7:45:00 PM

I have no µh±¤. I am not for or against¦@²£¥D¸q.

I understand what you are saying. But I simply believe that whatever ¥D¸q is just at best ¥D¸q; and I am not sure there is a ¥D¸q that really stands as THE ¥D¸q or else, every society would adopt this BEST ¥D¸q. Ww [mankind] have come thousands of years and yet we still do not have a universally and mutaully accepted ¥D¸q for all, I wonder why.

Does ¯Q¦«¨¹ really exist? Or are we just trying to figure who is the better evil?

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